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Well hello jeremy with foursomes off road. So today in the shop. Ive got got a 2003.
Little less zukie carry thats a da 63t four wheel drive mini truck there and today were talking tires so weve got a stock mini truck tire a very common set up with a atv tire on a on a atv rim and then even a 14 inch. You know street steel rim with a just a street tire on there now were just gonna try to figure out which of these are gonna fit and how to make them fit if theyre not going to fit just to bolt them straight onto the truck. So yeah were talking offset and back spacing and tire diameter all right so youve got the truck jacked up and got it on a jack stand.
So its nice and safe. Its all this wheel off all right so well be able to measure our backspacing from the face of the hub to these struts. We can see what kind of clearance.
Were gonna need for these wheels okay so to measure back spacing of course. What we need what you need to know your box spacing for of course is so that your tire and rim. Doesnt want to come in contact with the back here struck here.
Now. Where youre gonna measure that from is right from the hub. Face and then back to there so to do that simply just need a couple of things so a straight edge.
So basically just gonna line a straight edge up get on the front of your hub. Face here. Nice and straight.
And then measure that distance from the straight edge to the outermost point of your strut. Now. Ive already done that on this truck.
And weve got a measurement of 5 inches. So 5 inches is our total back space you know basically from from the outermost portion of the strut spring here back to that straight edge basically gave us 5 inches. So basically what that tells us is weve got 5 inches of total clearance from you know the hub face to the strut.
So does that mean that you can put a 5 inch back. Spacing wheel on here. No because if you put a 5 inch.
Back space. Wheel. Literally.
The wheel is going to be hitting the strut. You know right off the right off the bat let alone whatever sort of tire. You have on there thats going to want to push out a little bit further so typically on these trucks youre okay and this is you know gonna vary from truck to truck.
But typically on these trucks youre okay with about a 4 inch back spacing so of course. Thats gonna put the rim. You know about an inch away from the strut once its bolted into place and then of course leave that little extra room for whatever width of tire that you have on there so.
A 4 inch back spacing works out pretty well so lets have a look at these wheels. So this is the stock rim and tire. So how do we measure back spacing on a rim and tire well back spacing of course is going to be from the back side of the rim.
So we flip it upside down. You do need some sort of a straight edge course that you can basically place it across the across the rim. Here now im just measuring the back spacing of the rim.
Not the rim and tire here. So basically from the back of the hub. Face here to the straight edge.
Weve got just four inches. Almost dead on you know four inches of back spacing on the stock rim.
Plus of course. The tiger does stick out a little bit as well. So if you want to find out theres lots of ways to do this scientifically.
But a real easy way if you lay the tiger kind of flat on the ground and then measure it you know right through sorry about that measure it right through the the hub. Face there now of course you got to go to the backside of the rim. So were both say four and a quarter or four and three quarters.
Sorry. Four and a half four and three quarters to the back side of the hub face to the ground. Which of course is taking into account.
The thickness of the tire. So as you can see with that five inch back spacing that we have on the truck. Weve got say four and a half just for easy numbers sake here.
Then were still gonna have you know easily a half inch clearance between the back of the tire. And the strut so that combination works perfect. Which of course is the stock setup.
So what happens if we go back to our you know bigger off road rim or even a really common on road steel rim and tire package well lets measure the back spacing on these and find out alright. So weve got our standard fourteen inch. Just steel car rim flipped over here and were just gonna measure measure the back spacing.
Now. This is a really again common just kind of off the shelf something youd find at any tire shop type of a rim. But lets see what sort of back spacing that this thing is putting out so we just run the straightedge and were going to the top of the tire.
So total back spacing so were sitting that five and a half inches. Which we know of course. We measured the truck.
We only have five inches to the strut. So this this combo here on this rim is probably a full inch out as far as the back spacing requirements are concerned now when were talking back spacing. Were not talking offset so there a difference between offset and backspace and so back spacing of course is just the measurement from the back of the hub.
Face on the wheel to the you know top of the ramp or top of the rim and tire combo whichever youre measuring from offset is going to be the measurement from this hub face to the centerline of the rim. So to measure that again we can do that with the wheel on here as well so weve got it land on the back face down. So if we go right to the ground to the bottom of the well do this in millimeters because most offsets are in millimeters.
So weve got a hundred and eighty six millimeters from the bottom of the ground at the top of the tire. So 186 millimeters. Now if we measure or divide that by two thats gonna give us our centre line.
So thats ninety three so ninety three millimeters essentially is our center line that were working with and if we want to find out what sort of back spacing or sorry offset that this rim has basically we just need to do a little bit of quick math. So to get the distance from this hub face to the ground of course. You could try to measure it like that or you could just take the measurement here minus.
The measurement. There and thatll give you that distance so thats actually 46 millimeters. So 46 millimeters from the ground to the back of the hub.
Face so now if we know that thats 46 millimeters and the center line is 93. Basically we just need to minus those and thatll tell you how much offset that this room has so if we take 93 millimeters and minus. The 46 millimeters to the ground thats going to give us a offset of 47 millimeters.
So get what im saying. The offset essentially so from the centerline of the rim to this hub. Face is a 45 millimeter positive.
Or forty seven millimeter positive. Offset.
So in order for this rim. If we wanted to say to take a combination like this this 14 inch rim six inch wide with a 185 series tire for it to be able to just go and bolt on to the mini truck. Its gonna need to have more this specific rim would need to have more like a 22 millimeter off that so that what that would mean is that its only gonna be the hub.
Face would only be twenty two millimeters from the center line rather than 47 millimeters from the center line. So what thats gonna do is essentially give us that extra inch of clearance on the inside of the wheel. That we would need to mount this up now again that offset is going to change depending on the thickness of the rim.
So if you had a ten inch wide rim. A 22 millimeter offset. Obviously isnt gonna cut it because youve got a lot of extra rim.
You know sticking out on both sides. So. But typically with say like this six inch rim.
That 22 millimeter. Offsets probably plenty with that size of a tire. Now very similar with an off road tire.
Another these are measured. A little bit these are typically measured in just backspacing. They dont usually measure them in offset.
But this is a twelve inch by seven off road standard off road tire. Now actually if you see here. Weve got et plus ten.
So thats actually our offset measurement. So the offset on this rim is a plus ten. Which is again gonna be ten millimeters from the centerline of the rim.
This is offset of ten millimeters. But what we need to know again is back spacing is this going to work so if we take our straight edge here. Again.
Well grab a tape measure and we go and looks like so. This is going to be about a four and a half just over four and a half inch essentially back spacing so again. This is probably gonna be really tight as far as just fitting that type of uh you know a rim on the tire.
Typically what we would like to see on an off road adv tire like that would be a four inch. So youll see that youll hear the numbers four vac spacing on atetv rims and off road rims. Its usually stated as a 5 2.
4. 3. So what is that what that is relating to is the back spacing and the front spacing.
So if youve got a 4 3. Youve got four inches of back spacing on the back. And then three inches of overhang towards the front.
If you have a five plus two thats gonna mean youve got five inches of backspacing to the back. And only two inches of that seven overhanging to the front so typically what youre gonna want to see for direct bolt on to a mini truck is a four plus three backspacing now the issue here becomes most atv lug nuts. Lug.
Nut patterns are going to be a four on one 10 4. On 115 4. On one 37.
Rarely are you gonna find the really common for on 100. There are a few out there that will fit.
But the 4 on 100 can be really tough to find so what do you have to do well. Typically you got to go to spacers all right so whats an adapter space. Youre gonna do for you well itll do two things number one its gonna adapt you notice the inner holes are further in than the studs so thats gonna adapt from the 100 millimeter bolt pattern on the truck so if we go to the truck hub.
Weve got a 100 millimeter bolt pattern. So theyll fit right on there and then theyre gonna give us the. 150 this is 101.
143. Or 115 millimeter bolt pattern for the rim. That were both on plus of course now.
Weve got an extra inch added to the hub face. Which is going to give us that well now we remember we had 5 inches. So now we have 6 inches of back spacing from the hub.
Face today so knowing that of course. If weve got the 1 inch adapters on the truck. We had this standard atv.
Which is a 5 plus. 2. Atv rim thats gonna you know.
5 inch back spacing or we measured. It out to be what both 4 and 4 and 3 4. In there well were adding an extra inch to that so now instead of being right on the right on the edge as far as what would fit on the truck.
Now we were gonna have that little extra clearance between the truck between the tire. And the strut so a set of these adapter spacers will definitely let you both a standard atv ram. On with no major issues now again thats granted that were sticking with about an 8 inch wide.
You know atv tire youre still not gonna have enough clearance to go to a big 10 inch wide tire for the most part. But of course. Theres gonna be differences everywhere now same thing.
Weve got you know a lot of tracks and stuff that will bolt onto these trucks. So again. Were gonna use adapter spacers.
There as well usually a little bit thicker to give us that proper offset. So that the obviously much wider tracks arent going to interfere with the struts on the truck. So adapter spacers can be really handy you know argue as you may about adapter spacers or wheel spacers on your.
Vehicles you know would i put wheel spacers on if this was a 8000 pound 900 horsepower you know diesel truck probably not considering weve got a 1600 pound little rig here with 50 horsepower properly torqued with good quality wheel spacers. I dont think youre gonna have a an issue with using adapter spacers on there now again the same can be said for that standard car wheel that we had there you know if you have a set of these lying around and you want to put them on your truck. You can do the same thing you can just get a set of one inch.
You know in this case. Thats all we were out was that one inch as far as the offset that we needed set a one inch. You know for on 102 for on 100 spacers and basically you could bolt your standard steel rim and tire package right on to your mini truck as well so i hope that helped answer some questions about your mini tire you know again depending on the truck.
Were talking a suzuki da. 63t here very similar to the db 52 da. Sixty.
Two suzukis the s. 210 p. Die axis.
So basically the 1999 and up mini trucks the newer ones. Very commonly weve got that 5 inch of back spacing so we usually are looking for for the back type of the back.
Spacing total. The older mini trucks have a little bit extra like if you go to a mid 90s uzuki or daihatsu. You actually had a little extra room to that structure.
So that would allow you to actually have a little bit of extra back spacing a little extra wheel choice but very commonly on the newer style mini trucks that are going to end up running either spacers or finding specialty rims with that you know extra offset to the tire. So one final consideration that were going to look at here with wheel size is going to be diameter. So the stock diameter and most of these mini truck wheels is in and around 21 inches.
We measure that up yeah so about 21 inches in our stock diameter. There which of course fits with quite a bit of extra clearance. You know front and back on these trucks very common going to a tv wheel typically 23 or even 24 inch.
Some guys will try to fit 25 s. On there with a proper lift kit. Shouldnt be an issue and then again even a car tire like this a 185 series on a 14 inch rim that ends up being about a 23 inch wheel entire diameter.
So what is the issue with going to big well specifically on this da 63. T. If youve tried to shoehorn a 25 inch atv tire under here so 25 inches.
If we go about 12 12. And a half inches center line to the back at the tire. So typically if its 25 inch diameter tire.
Its gonna want to sit well basically in the fender well of this truck. So issue with putting say a 25 inch tire on here. Even if you put a lift kit thats gonna bring you know your tire down to down to this area here.
But youre still gonna be really tight in this rear area especially on a suzuki da 63. So structure a little bit better so a 25 inch tire is gonna be rubbing really bad on the back of the the fender well here even with a lift kit and then same thing on the front. Youre gonna have to basically trim some of that out because again were you know to that front lip.
Were only 11 and a half inches. So your tires gonna want to be sticking out more like 12 12 and a half you know so youre gonna end up trimming off a bunch of the front fascia there as well so 25 for the most part are not going to fit on these trucks you know without doing some major fender trimming front and rear and then of course. The other thing to consider is you know if the tire is that big and wide even just as youre steering.
That tire is gonna want to sweep a lot further and end up contacting in areas in the front fender. Well and in the rear fender well for the most part with a simple 2 inch lift kit. Most of these mini trucks will fit a 23 inch diameter tire with a 2 inch.
Lift kit for the most part now theres again i cant cover every make model. Brandon year you may have some minor trimming with a 23 inch tire. But for the most part they will work 24s can be really close again depending on the tire.
Some 24 inch atv tires arent actually 24 inches. Some of them were 23 point one or two so it really is going to depend on the exact tire setup. You have going on there.
But again generally youre pretty safe going with a 23 inch. By 8 inch. Wide atv tire on the proper.
Offset rim without too much issue. And then for most car tires. Usually you can get away with a width again with a lift kit usually a 175 or even a 185 series tire like this one here again with the proper back spacing or set of spacers on there you know a 185.
Something like this 185 6514 would fit you know with a width of 1 inch spacer on this specific rim. If you want to play. It a little safer you can do like say.
A 175 series. Which is going to be just that little narrower on the tire less chance of rubbing and then of course depending on the profile of the tire will depend on only at the height that youve got but yep thats basically about so hopefully that helped you out a little bit again make sure you leave a comment. If you have any questions dont forget to subscribe to our channel and check out our website for sons off road comm and weve got lots more information coming up in the future.
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